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Brian Mendelsohn
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 34 years of experience
Criminal Defense and White Collar Crime
Columbia Law School
Brian Mendelsohn has spent his entire three-decade legal career as a criminal defense attorney, earning a reputation as one of Atlanta's top federal criminal trial lawyers. He has won more federal criminal trials than most attorneys in Georgia have even tried. From 1995 to 2023, Brian was with the Federal Defender Program for the Northern District of Georgia, serving 17 years as the First Assistant (Deputy Director) while supervising 27 trial lawyers and maintaining an active caseload. As a partner with the Mendelsohn Ertel Law Group, Brian works on state criminal cases in Georgia and federal criminal cases in...
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Torris J. Butterfield
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 27 years of experience
(404) 522-5056
The Hurt Building, 50 Hurt Plaza, S.E., Suite 1120
Atlanta, GA 30303
Free ConsultationCriminal Defense, Divorce, Medical Malpractice and Personal Injury
Mercer University Walter F. George School of Law
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Andre C. Ramsay
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 12 years of experience
100 Peachtree Street
Suite 2600
Atlanta, GA 30303
Free ConsultationWorkers' Comp
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School and Florida State University College of Law
Your Workers' Compensation Advocate! “What sets Andre apart from other attorneys is the way he cares about the people he represents. He treats them like they are members of his family and he won’t quit. When it comes to workers' compensation attorneys, he is one of the best." - Shean Williams, a partner in the Atlanta Cochran Firm ABOUT THE COCHRAN FIRM - The Cochran Firm Atlanta has a simple mission, to bring legal justice to the clients who have suffered personal injuries. Our partners are hand-picked by Johnnie L. Cochran, Jr., and are committed to continuing his...
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Cory Simmons
Atlanta, GA Lawyer
Free ConsultationPersonal Injury and Workers' Comp
Florida Coastal School of Law
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David Zagoria
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 28 years of experience
Free ConsultationAnimal, Personal Injury, Social Security Disability and Workers' Comp
South Texas College of Law
Former Chief Senior Assistant District Attorney who has the experience and skill to get you the results you deserve!
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Thomas Pleasant
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 29 years of experience
Free ConsultationMedical Malpractice and Nursing Home
Attorney Thomas W. Pleasant is licensed to practice in North Carolina, Kentucky, Georgia, and Tennessee. He focuses his practice on helping victims of catastrophic injury and their families in wrongful death matters. He assists in complicated nursing home abuse and neglect cases as well as medical malpractice, birth injuries, and traumatic brain injury cases. He is AV Preeminent Rated by Martindale-Hubbell for his high standards of client care. He is also listed in Super Lawyers®, has years of experience in jury and medical trials, and is committed to doing everything he can to achieve full and fair compensation for all...
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H. Glenn Fogle Jr.
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 34 years of experience
Immigration
Georgia State University College of Law
H. Glenn Fogle, Jr., the founding member and principal of The Fogle Law Firm, LLC, is in his twenty-fifth year in the field of Immigration and Nationality Law. Raised in the United Kingdom until he was fourteen, Mr. Fogle returned to the U.S. with his family to attend high school and college. Mr. Fogle is a member of the bars of the U.S. Supreme Court and the U.S. Courts of Appeals of the Second Circuit, the Fourth Circuit, the Fifth Circuit, the Sixth Circuit, the Ninth Circuit and the Eleventh Circuit. He is a longtime member of the American...
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Reginald A. Greene
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 29 years of experience
600 West Peachtree Street
One Georgia Center
Atlanta, GA 30308
Free ConsultationCivil Rights and Personal Injury
Howard University School of Law
Attorney Reginald Greene, also known as The Super Lawyer of Greene Legal Group, has been practicing law for over 25 years. He currently specializes in personal injury cases. He gives his clients excellent service and zealous representation. Each year, he recovers millions of dollars in settlements and judgments for his clients.
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Will Franklin Smith III
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 14 years of experience
(404) 997-2912
691 JOHN WESLEY DOBBS AVE NE
STE V-170
Atlanta, GA 30312
Free ConsultationNursing Home and Personal Injury
Georgia State University College of Law
Will Smith is a trial lawyer with a practice focused on representing clients injured due to the negligence of others. Will is a lawyer’s lawyer. He has represented clients in both State and Federal Courts, in trial and on appeal, throughout Georgia. His expert legal analysis has been used on various Atlanta News networks. Will Smith learned the basics of trial work as a prosecutor in the Fulton County Solicitor General’s Office. After the Solicitor’s office, Will joined a boutique law firm in Atlanta focusing on federal litigation. Using his experience from both his previous positions, Will opened...
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Alexander Denton
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 12 years of experience
Real Estate
Vanderbilt University Law School
"Alec joined the Robbins Firm in May 2014 where his focused practices areas are business and real estate litigation. He also has significant experience in commercial and tort law. He has represented military veterans and their families before the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims; as well as represented many other clients in a variety of industries, including transportation and logistics companies, real estate developers, and product manufacturers. Alec earned a B.A. in Government from Hamilton College and earned his J.D. from Vanderbilt University Law School. While in law school, he served as an editor of both...
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Craig Kunkes
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 14 years of experience
Administrative
Vanderbilt University Law School
Craig Kunkes is an attorney who focuses his practice on commercial litigation as well as regulatory and compliance matters. Prior to joining the firm, he gained experience as an attorney for the Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Protection and as counsel to the Georgia House of Representatives Judiciary Non-Civil Committee. At the Office of Consumer Protection, Craig led the investigations of a variety of businesses and/or individuals to determine whether they violated consumer protection laws and regulations. He successfully negotiated a number of public settlements, including one for over $4.3 million. Craig earned his law...
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Aaron Russell Thomas
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 21 years of experience
As a three-time winner of Atlanta’s Best Divorce Attorney, Aaron Thomas is one of the nation’s top experts in family law issues. He is a 2002 graduate of Harvard Law School, and from 2015-2022, his firm Aaron Thomas Law, was recognized by peers as one of the fastest growing family law firms in the state of Georgia. With clients ranging from NBA hall of famers and Superbowl winners to Grammy award winning artists, Aaron has extensive experience representing his clients in a range of family law matters, including divorce, custody, child support, and prenuptial and postnuptial agreements.
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Justin Michael Scott
Decatur, GA Attorney with 18 years of experience
Employment
Emory University School of Law
Justin M. Scott is the founder of Radford Scott LLP, a boutique employment litigation firm representing both companies and individuals in employment disputes.
Justin handles a wide-range of employment cases, including wage-and-hour cases involving claims of misclassification, unpaid overtime, unpaid minimum wage, off-the-clock claims, and other related allegations. He has substantial experience litigating such matters on a class, collective and individual basis, both on the plaintiff’s and defense side.
He also frequently litigates harassment, discrimination, retaliation and failure-to accommodate claims under all major federal employment statutes, including Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Age Discrimination in Employment Act...
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Stephen Mark Ozcomert
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 34 years of experience
Atlanta, GA 30305
Free ConsultationLegal Malpractice, Medical Malpractice, Personal Injury and Products Liability
Emory University School of Law
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S. Derek Gage
Decatur, GA Lawyer with 20 years of experience
Criminal Defense and DUI & DWI
Emory University School of Law
S. Derek Gage has been practicing in the Atlanta metro area as a criminal defense trial lawyer for well over a decade. Specializing in criminal and probate commitment cases involving mental illness and mental health challenges, Mr. Gage focuses on putting his clients on a path where they may safely leave the criminal justice system and other institutionalized environments and successfully manage their mental health challenges with pride and dignity. Mr. Gage practices in all metro Atlanta counties and beyond, including Fulton, DeKalb, Douglas, Gwinnett, Cobb, Clayton, Henry, and Hall.
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Akintunde Akinyele
Decatur, GA Attorney with 24 years of experience
Free ConsultationCriminal Defense, DUI & DWI, Immigration and Personal Injury
Georgia State University College of Law
Tunde Akinyele has been practicing law in the Metropolitan Atlanta area for the past 13 years. He is a former Senior Assistant District Attorney with the DeKalb County District Attorney's office, where he handled serious criminal offenses including burglaries, armed robberies, sexual assault cases, crimes against children, white collar, and homicide cases. Tunde is an experienced trial lawyer and will aggressively defend your rights, with a strong criminal practice, including traffic offenses, misdemeanors, DUI, minor and major drug offenses, and minor and major felony cases.
Our firm also has an immigration practice, including Family...
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Norman D. McKellar
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 23 years of experience
Free ConsultationCriminal Defense, Tax and White Collar Crime
University of Tennessee College of Law
Norman D. McKellar practices law in the areas of IRS tax resolution and federal criminal defense, with an emphasis on tax fraud and white collar federal crimes. Mr. McKellar has successfully defended clients in criminal cases in both federal and state courts and in U.S. Tax Court. Mr. McKellar was voted by his peers as a “Top Attorney” for 8 straight years by Knoxville’s CityView magazine. In 2014, Mr. McKellar was selected as a member of the “Top 100 Trial Lawyers” by the National Trial Lawyers, and he also received this same award in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, and...
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Joseph Powell Mcclelland
Decatur, GA Lawyer with 24 years of experience
Free ConsultationConsumer, Insurance Claims, Personal Injury and Products Liability
Loyola School Of Law New Orlea
Consumer lawyer and personal injury lawyer that is a member of the New York Bar and a member of the Georgia Bar. Consumer law is representing consumers against debt collectors, credit bureaus and banks. Joseph McClelland represents clients that are receiving unwanted calls to their home phone and cell phone under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and the Telephone Consumer Protection Act across the state of Georgia. We help stop unwanted cell phone calls without permission by autodialers. All consultations are free of charge. Call us for questions with the FDCPA, FCRA...
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Daniel O'Connell
Decatur, GA Attorney with 17 years of experience
(404) 410-0034
315 W. Ponce de Leon Avenue
Suite 580
Decatur, GA 30030
Workers' Comp
Georgia State University College of Law
Dan O’Connell has been representing injured workers in Georgia for over a decade. He has obtained millions of dollars in compensation for his clients and represented them in hearings and mediations across the state. Before devoting himself exclusively to representing claimants, Dan worked as a staff attorney and mediator for the Georgia State Board of Workers’ Compensation.
Dan has earned an AV Rating from Martindale-Hubbell, a distinction that is only given to attorneys whose peers confirm them as trustworthy, ethical, and highly-skilled in their area of practice. He has also been been selected to the Georgia Super Lawyers Rising Stars list,...
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J. Blake Ledbetter
Decatur, GA Attorney with 13 years of experience
Free ConsultationBusiness, Criminal Defense and Personal Injury
University System of Georgia - Georgia State University
J. Blake Ledbetter attended the University of Georgia, where he obtained a Bachelors in Business Administration-Finance in 2008 from the Terry College of Business. He attended law school at the Georgia State University School of Law from 2008-2011. Mr. Ledbetter was a member of the Business & Law Society at Georgia State. Mr. Ledbetter began working with Joseph Conoscienti & Associates as an intern in 2009. Mr. Ledbetter became a member of the Georgia Bar in 2012. After he graduated from Georgia State Law School, Mr. Ledbetter began working as an Associate with Joseph Conoscienti...
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Jessica Ann King
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 13 years of experience
Free ConsultationAppeals, Medical Malpractice, Nursing Home and Personal Injury
Cumberland School of Law, Samford University
Jessica King represents individuals and their family members who have been injured or killed by the negligence of others, as well as individuals who have been injured in work accidents.
Jessica grew up in Marietta, Georgia. She attended Georgia Institute of Technology for her undergraduate degree and earned a B.S. in Management in 2008. After graduating from Georgia Tech, Jessica attended Cumberland School of Law in Birmingham, Alabama, where she graduated with a J.D. in 2011.
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Michael Richard Moebes
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 21 years of experience
(404) 354-5432
1201 West Peachtree Street
Suite 2329
Atlanta, GA 30309
Free ConsultationPersonal Injury and Workers' Comp
Georgia State University College of Law
Georgia workers' compensation attorney with experience defending insurance companies and employers now representing injured workers and veterans.
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Jaret A. Spevak
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 32 years of experience
Free ConsultationPersonal Injury, Social Security Disability and Workers' Comp
Emory University School of Law
Jaret A. Spevak, Partner of Rechtman & Spevak, is an experienced Atlanta attorney specializing in personal injury, workers’ compensation and Social Security disability claims and appeals in Georgia. Mr. Spevak worked hard to earn a quality education as an undergraduate and in law school, and gained valuable experience working as a trial attorney, before finally becoming a partner alongside David B. Rechtman in 2000. Mr. Spevak is a focused, patient and aggressive lawyer whose primary goal is to protect the rights of individuals in Georgia who have been injured due the negligence or intentional wrongdoing of another person, those who...
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Zach Pritchard
Cartersville, GA Lawyer with 12 years of experience
Free ConsultationInsurance Claims, Medical Malpractice, Nursing Home and Personal Injury
John Marshall
Zach Pritchard is an aggressive personal injury attorney who represents his clients with determination. Here at Pritchard Injury Firm we pride ourselves on courageously advocating for clients. We represent victims of auto accidents, motorcycle accidents, trucking accidents, wrongful death, dog bites, and slip & fall cases. If you or a loved one has been involved in an accident, CALL NOW FOR A FREE CASE EVALUATION. We proudly serve all of Northwest Georgia and Metro-Atlanta area.
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Ruby Knight
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 35 years of experience
Free ConsultationCriminal Defense, DUI & DWI, Family and Personal Injury
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School
At Knight & Associates, we practice all areas of uncontested and contested divorces involving child custody, alimony, formal separations, child support and visitation.
Our focus involves uncontested divorces at flat rate fees of $750.
We are proven fighters for your legal rights. We have settled bodily injury claims for millions of dollars over the years, and would be happy to settle any collision claim that you may have.
Please contact us direct. We return all calls 24 hours a day. We look forward to hearing from you.
rubyknight@att.net
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Daniel J. Moriarty
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 13 years of experience
Free ConsultationMedical Malpractice and Personal Injury
University of Texas - Austin
For the first six years of his law practice, Daniel defended doctors, nurses and hospitals in medical-malpractice cases. He decided to switch sides and represent individuals hurt or killed by the negligence of others. Since then, he has secured millions of dollars for his clients.
Daniel taught high school English as a Second Language before becoming a lawyer. He graduated with a B.A. from the University of Notre Dame. He earned his J.D. from the University of Texas at Austin.
Daniel lives in the Virginia-Highland neighborhood of Atlanta with his wife Casey, his daughter June, and his son Branch. They attend...
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Matthew Hollingsworth
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 8 years of experience
Free ConsultationPersonal Injury
Pennsylvania State University - Dickinson School of Law
Matthew J. Hollingsworth is the founding partner and lead trial attorney at Hollingsworth Injury Law in Atlanta, Georgia. Matthew focuses on helping people injured as result of the negligence of others. He has experience working with Georgia courts in civil litigation matters including automobile accidents, motorcycle accidents, medical malpractice, slip and fall, premises liability, dog bites, and other catastrophic injury matters. He received his undergraduate degree in Economics at the University of Georgia and his Juris Doctorate at The Pennsylvania State Dickinson School of Law. Prior to the practice of law, Matthew gained extensive knowledge of the Atlanta legal market...
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Jonathan Perazzo
Atlanta, GA Attorney with 14 years of experience
1372 Peachtree St NE
Atlanta, GA 30309
Free ConsultationInsurance Claims, Personal Injury, Products Liability and Real Estate
St. Thomas University School of Law
Miami and North Miami Beach Law Firm Serving Florida Personal Injury Claims in Floirda.
Jonathan Perazzo Esquire is founder of the Perazzo Law Firm and has an extensive track-record achieving the best possible results for his clients. He has obtained millions of dollars in compensation for his Miami and Florida personal injury clients from lawsuits against insurance companies.
Through his professional staff of attorneys, and with offices in Miami and North Miami Beach, Jonathan Perazzo strives to deliver professional, unbiased legal representation to Florida residents seeking fair compensation for personal injuries, property damage, or losses as a result of the...
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J. Steven Parker
Atlanta, GA Attorney
Free ConsultationSecurities
The University of Georgia School of Law
J. Steven Parker has extensive experience in the areas of investment adviser and broker dealer regulation, as well as securities litigation and arbitration. As a partner in the firm’s Regulatory Practice Group, representing individuals, broker-dealers, and investment advisers in regulatory and enforcement matters. Additionally, he represents broker-dealers, registered representative and others in securities litigation and arbitration matters.
Mr. Parker advises existing and start-up investment advisers, including advisers required to be registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission or with one or more state regulatory agencies. The landscape of regulation in this area of law is constantly shifting, requiring in most instances...
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Andrew Carmichael Ausband
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 36 years of experience
Personal Injury
The University of Georgia School of Law and The University of Georgia School of Law
After five years of representing large corporations, Andrew Ausband realized that his passion was to help individuals and their families who have suffered due to the negligence of others. Founding Ausband & Dumont in 1995, Andrew has since dedicated himself to helping innocent individuals fight for their rights. Focusing solely on cases that involve truck accidents, Andrew and his team work hard to secure the financial compensation his clients need for their suffering.
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Thomas C. Nagel
Atlanta, GA Lawyer with 34 years of experience
Free ConsultationCriminal Defense, DUI & DWI, Juvenile and Personal Injury
Georgia State University College of Law and University of Georgia
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Keesha Cecelia Robinson-Roberts
Johns Creek, GA Lawyer with 8 years of experience
(770) 746-3870
6465 East Johns Crossing
Suite 400
Johns Creek, GA 30097
Free ConsultationDivorce and Family
Touro College Jacob D. Fuchsberg Law Center
Keesha was admitted to the New York bar in 2016, and the Georgia bar in 2021. She now dedicates her practice and passion to family law cases exclusively. Keesha has represented clients in hundreds of cases that include Prenuptial Agreements, Postnuptial Agreements, separate maintenance, divorce (contested and uncontested), asset division, alimony, child custody, child support, legitimation, Temporary Protective Orders, as well as contempt and modification cases. She is a skilled litigator with years of courtroom experience from making daily court appearances while practicing before the Supreme Court of New York, to handling hundreds of family law cases in various jurisdictions...
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R. Michael Coker
Lawrenceville, GA Attorney with 14 years of experience
Personal Injury
Georgia State University College of Law
R. Michael Coker has recovered millions for the injured in Gwinnett County. His attention to detail and dedication to his client makes him a favorite of many in the Gwinnett County area.
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Laura Coates
Lawrenceville, GA Lawyer with 14 years of experience
Criminal Defense, Divorce, Domestic Violence and Family
Georgia State University College of Law
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Eugenia Wallace
Lawrenceville, GA Attorney with 10 years of experience
Divorce, Domestic Violence and Family
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School
With years of experience in the field of family law, Attorney Wallace approaches each case with a sense of eagerness and determination. Her top priority is to treat each client as an individual, with respect, honesty, and empathy. She understands that going through a family law case can be one of the most difficult times in a person's life and she is dedicated to being a supportive part of her client's team. Attorney Wallace has a special passion for cases involving children as she believes they are the most important people to consider when a family breaks up.
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Taylor Barnett
Lawrenceville, GA Attorney with 9 years of experience
Free ConsultationPersonal Injury
Wake Forest University School of Law
Attorney Taylor Barnett was born in Ohio and graduated Magna Cum Laude from The Ohio State University and graduated Cum Laude from Wake Forest University School of Law. He practiced law for nearly 6 years at an Atlanta insurance defense firm. He now uses this experience to prosecute cases on behalf of injured victims.
He's one of the partners at Hammers Car Accident & Personal Injury Lawyers, an Atlanta personal injury law firm with over 50 years of combined experience. Our Atlanta personal injury attorneys have recovered millions of dollars in clients through Georgia.
We cover all injury-related cases, such as car...
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Mr. David Ward
Lawrenceville, GA Lawyer with 20 years of experience
Free ConsultationDivorce and Family
Campbell Law School
When it comes to divorce and family law matters, The Ward Law Firm, PA, knows that everyone has different priorities. If you have children, it’s family first. If you have your own business or professional practice, that will feature prominently on your list of priorities. The Ward Law Firm, P.A., helps people in Lawrenceville and across Gwinnett County address every aspect of their divorce so they don’t have to put one before the other. We have been providing exemplary family law assistance to our clients for years. We treat every case like it is the most important case we have...
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Jameel Manji
Lawrenceville, GA Attorney with 13 years of experience
Criminal Defense and Immigration
Georgia State University College of Law
Led by Atlanta immigration attorney Jameel Manji, Manji Law was founded to help clients navigate the difficult and ever-changing immigration system in the United States. Manji Law supports clients with a wide-range of immigration issues including family immigration, removal defense, asylum/refugee, business immigration, naturalization, deferred action and TPS, and many more. When you’re up against the federal government, you need a passionate and effective immigration attorney. Jameel Manji is the man for the job.
If you’re looking for a passionate and caring Immigration attorney in Atlanta who won’t break the bank, Manji Law is a perfect choice. Look no further...
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Kavan Singh Grover
Lawrenceville, GA Attorney with 19 years of experience
368 W. Pike Street
Suite 203
Lawrenceville, GA 30046
Free ConsultationPersonal Injury
The University of Georgia School of Law
I specialize in wrongful death and personal injury cases. This includes automobile, motorcycle and bicycle crashes, truck wrecks, medical malpractice claims, animal attacks, and premises liability claims. I also handle other civil litigation matters. We handle these cases pre-litigation and through litigation and appeals.
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Anthony Charles Kalka
Lawrenceville, GA Lawyer with 23 years of experience
(770) 673-3738
148 South Clayton Street
Suite A
Lawrenceville, GA 30046
Free ConsultationMedical Malpractice, Personal Injury and Products Liability
Mercer University Walter F. George School of Law
Have you been harmed in an injury accident? Injury accidents can be extremely severe and can result in all kinds of complexities and challenges that you never anticipated. It is at just such a time that you need to know where you can turn to procure the help and support your case requires. Come to the law firm ofThe Kalka Law Group, where you can receive the help you need from a personal injury attorney in Atlanta. The team at the office has dealt with brain injuries and premises liability situations. They have experience with nursing home abuse and slip...